HR3 – Is Counsell handling the pitching staff the right way?

Bill Michaels Sports
Monday, April 16th

Hour 3. We’ll also talk Packers and the Draft with Charles Davis. Plus, you’ll hear from Paul Chryst in a Badgers spotlight.


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From the league runs through the river for. This is we're Wisconsin sports fans cone stood tall. Phil monkeys show. Welcome Michael she's always on the air. Talk a brewers baseball before the top the hour and a wanna get back in an arrogant Robert Charles Davis of the NFL network the draft analyst as well and we're going to be chatting with him as the Packers get ready to embark upon yet another season. Of draft prospects who hoped to come in and start and help this team and have them bounced back from where they were just a year ago so we'll talk some. NFL football and specifically the draft coming up here in just a little bit also wore out get into us some more brewers stuff but. Age slowly deeper and it's you know kind of pitching staff if you will but that being said. Coming back after a 33 road trip. A lot of people a lot of opinions on this regarding the of them the brewers and I wanted to kind of stick with that. Bill is an Appleton listening to is on the score Bill Walker with a program the Michael show what's going arm and. There had to dig them out that's all they're bigger crowd and you know holy man yeah. They're the problem we're prepared to step there's nobody can get through that they're there and you're good at all you can map where you. It all parents or your starters can't get through to their then I got. It took it to Brodeur. No I completely agree when you don't have guys and we talked about this is reason. Bill I appreciate the thought Melissa reason and hopes he can on very. This original we're talking about going after guys like. There's a lot of people go and pass six innings and relying heavily on your bullpen why you gonna pay 200 million dollars 150 million dollars you guys only go 55 and a third five and two thirds innings. This is the reason that as starting pitching unless you're one of the elite starting pitching pitching has been devalued. It's all about matchups it's all about and he's all about appearances. And how many pitches you scroll over a period of time and that's the way things are managed now which is the reason starting pitching unless of course Europe clean Kershaw or somebody like that. It there's there's been a devout human element. And we're seeing this time and again and you know after the first couple weeks of the season you would expect guys that are throwing the ball rather well to go a little bit deeper but the other thing with the brewers. If you watch some of these guys now Greta has him in every guy understand that but some of these guys that got a good game going. But there are already by the fourth inning or ninety pitches then. So you're seeing him pitch one more inning and in that you're going well wait a minute he's got. He's only got one run across a place literally what he's up 210 or 112 pitches and that's it. That's what the Saber metrics tell you after a certain number of pitches. Everything begins to decline when you get to a certain threshold everything begins to decline you're starting to take your chances your won't risk reward. Begins to go down. So model blend in and out. Go to match up that's the way man most managers now are managing ball games let's go to Daniel listening to us in Toma Daniel I don't know what's going on in. I don't feel like I love the agent at like eight people it's a tree rockers. Wiley each carrier rocket away. Yeah. Iran out of money. So these. No no I I completely agree. You know operate now or hurt on their key players that are. Early in this the like a pattern and are my. You know that I'd knows these early lot accurately. Were all wrong and these we ought. Carol alt alt strong at the end. I've that I have completely have the same sentiment Dan appreciate the phone call 855830864. It. But then again don't forget you can get you can dig yourself in a humble you can't dig out of it throughout the remainder of the season if you start out really slow in the month of April met. So. When it comes to pitching you can also burn out your bullpen by the end of June nose and your your your your down the red at all because you just don't have way to dig out of that either. 8558308648855830. 86 foreign loans by kip dot com told free talk on 22 took two out of three at Saint Louis in doubt the number of losses the Mets have on the season. I'll take it that's from DJ. Tweeting us this was from Marcus has just take your business and home and things work themselves out and he's right in that sense when you look you've now got seven games coming up Cincinnati in the marlins'. Cincinnati's only got two wins on the season. You can't allow them to get healthy by any stretch of the imagination and the Miami Marlins only a four when you got two teams coming to town who were collected six in 24 on the season. If you'll get healthy against those teams I don't know what to tell you. I mean right now the Miami Marlins in the Cincinnati Reds run differential. Is negative. Negative 83. Between those two teams. The negative thirteen they're not you know they're not in the positive right now but you gotta hope that they get healthy mean the brewers went to the start of the season the Milwaukee Brewers have had. In the grand screen scheme of things when you look at the way they started the season. They had San Diego which they they swept. And came home faced a really tough cardinals team who's vying for one of the top spot in the division they Baylor losing two out of three there three out of for the cubs they should've had. That game that that that that third game in the series. That ended up losing provided to they had that game it all slip away. Then they go and take two out of three from the cardinals and make faces at a damn near unbeatable Mets team and they lose two out of three there and they lodged in ugly fashion with a walk off homer yesterday. They've actually played pretty well. They just haven't played well enough against the teams that are expected to be their New York's expected to give. Washington run for the money and everybody a pick Washington goal about the beginning of the season. So some of where there rat right now I'm not overwhelmingly concerned. But if you end up losing 62 out of three Cincinnati is split with the Marlins then begin to come become concerned if you can't pick up that negative thirteen and run differential. By the net by the end of next week. Then I become concern. I know it's early very early in the season but I do find it interest and I'm looking at the game logs of Yu Darvish Jake area and a Alex Cobb gland slam. They have not gotten off to a good start. No like Darvish he's fair he's gone three starts so far for a third in his first game five runs five hits. Against the brewers of course he pitches while six innings to its one run. Dan is most recent started its Atlanta off four and two thirds in nine hits four earned. Jake Gary Addai two starts this season. Good and bad he had four innings three hits to learn in a loss against Miami and then six and two thirds seven hits three runs two earned. I'm in a win against Tampa Alex Cobb once start so far three and two thirds ten hits eight runs seven of those earn including two home runs. And then Lance wins so far. I his first start four innings pitched five runs his second start five innings score what's. Nobody's quite an up. But you said it's early but nobody's lighten it up. Not right now they're not for all the money you're spending nobody is giving your money's worth right now. 8558308648. 855830864. In the loans but kept our comp. Told free talk line dean listening to a simple don't Wisconsin dean I don't and emails go knock. Mario good what's on your mind. Our rights I this political correct order on that relax they're off on the needle Aberdeen last. You know you're right just about replace the cardinals placed the call in the mass order for the better tee nationally. Let's get merchant Pritchard a little chance in the glue. Let's get our some of our players back and ending double that and much are you got Cincinnati and he got Miami let's see we can make some hay. Art I know I had completely agree that appreciate the phone call 8558308648. On loans by Kim dotcom told rhetorically where to get back into this. Coming up you're just a little bit more talks and NFL draft Charles Davis in the NFL network draft analyst going to be joining us talk to Packers football coming up next on the Michael show. You're listening to the bill might cool sports talk and AdWords. 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Is that simple let's dozens of where they believe in better gonna talk with Charles Davis Love by the NFL network of up here. Just a little bit over and talk with him about the NFL draft and the Packers place and it. As to the agreement Packers and how much better they can get realistic fashion let's be honest I mean how much better in the Packers yet. You know think about it how fashion they gonna get better because maybe that's the million dollar question. When it comes down to it can they turn this thing around right right now they have to write. It's always Super Bowl or bust even though I think this year might be the year it's a little unfair to say he did some more biased. But. I had. A I know a lot of people were you know always looking at this going this is what has to happen. Right. I don't know food qualification. To be honest with. 855830864. New loans we kept our count. Told free chalk line if you wanna chime in regarding the NFL draft there's somebody that you I think the Packers should go after tell me who and why. When it comes of that. There's a lot of good players that are in this year's draft and some players can help agreement Packers bright away. No we talk about you know Denzel ward defensive vote you know cornerback out of Ohio State. He's one of those guys people are talking about it's Patrick the safety. From Alabama. Know the guy didn't come from the end endure when James is not a factor in the safety from Florida State no one knows it. You've got to different defensive tackles and such. To remain Edmonds he outside linebacker. Comes at Virginia Tech. He's got a lot of people are saying to possibly help this team even Calvin Ridley out of Alabama you know as a great leaping ability didn't do well McCain to come by numbers. There's a corner. I'm Mike Hughes. Out of Central Florida. Pursued Josh Jackson the kid coming out of Iowa no the one that have been talked about quite a bit. So I'm mark in Denmark is to import. What you what you think Marcus DeVon. Some say he's got all the tools but because he didn't play a big time school. The defensive end. Out of university adversity Texas San Antonio. Calm. In that maybe he just doesn't have the chops to be able to get a dime. Look at he's got all the intangibles and he's got it on film and I'll Carroll played against go after him. But you're you're gonna need did you know and kind of hierarchy you need some corners. You need to additional help your secondary you need an outside edge rusher. You know and when I say secondary I I don't necessarily just added you know limits that two corners. And you got to figure out your offensive line. And you still pro you know pick up another wide receiver along the way just because and I I don't. Again I'm not sitting here throw on the bucket of cold water on the optimism I think about it Adam's Helm Pletcher deserved every penny he got. But I just saying as a guy that has to say there's there's a there's a cautionary tale there. He's one concussion away from maybe missing a season he's he's at three concussions in the last two years. So you probably gonna pick some of the wide receiver along the way as well. Joining us now in the NFL network draft analyst our good guy and always a friend of the show with Charles Davis now joining us on the shutter or Charlie Charles Sabin my friend. I've been doing well you've been so we're good job with a lot of changing Green Day as you know I mean they're bringing in a new defensive coordinator offensive guru coming back home and Joseph Philbin and you know Mike McCarty made a lot of changes Ted Toms is out Thompson is out goon coast is in an. So it how it realistically I've been saying this might be the cautionary tale this year because it's always Super Bowl or bust in Green Bay when Aaron Rodgers is healthy. What is it realistic to think if you're gonna go into a just trying to get to a top fifteen defense to say. It's Super Bowl or bust or we may be over so overshooting their skis a little bit here. Probably but in the world we live in now bill. He kind of got to get over skis option. Because we're not accept anything less than any. And here today. Philadelphia and play out the year before. What a whole track. OK so when you have consistent. Performance like Green Bay have. If you look up 181 in the Super Bowl that you're before they went a whole dark day. That tragic for you all of perspective and you and here's the other there. Do we really reward the consistent team now if they don't want to get it right well. Because otherwise what would become by the Portland TrailBlazer on the bottle franchises in Viet. You regret that we talk about Portland Trail Blazers they could plaster your. It got a clothing line yeah. They have wanted to Walt but the goal every year orders that are doing something right. But in our day and age we need to do. The big one right so I don't really lose sleep over that Tom Green Bay should be Super Bowl a buck especially now so there's jumped up. Ed now that they had been for Green Day. It's Minnesota it's great example of team to beat. Not greenback you Minnesota got a big bad teachers get chase. Minnesota's got quite a few contracts coming up at the end of next year thus pushing dollar chips and metal table this year you you make a change in Green Bay. Defensively to try to get yourself better but they still need a corner they still need an edge rusher bid the offensive line for as much as people don't talk about it. With primal lot of I don't know if primal log. It's going to be back and what they're going to do that offensive line you're gonna need most likely to tackle and spring is coming off the surgery. And you'll want would you exodus Jordy Nelson you know you're probably gonna you know wide receiver even though Dovonte onto your number 12 or three concussions in two years you know you're only one hit away and not be around you need depth there as well also. I think that there's quite a few things that this team could possibly do. And if the best player available just tough balls to them so to speak. Yeah that's a good point and the other part of it bill is if you do that that meets at rupture which you do. And part of what people have to have the conversation behind closed doors. In good because it is apple had it not be by cart to be a part that. Whatever their philosophy is there is part of that to me I don't I don't think you could ignore. What the deepest part of the draft so we're happy to make a decision between data. Can we get that later. Or. If you're right now or we don't giving what looks like this got you in two rusher when those places trap is now extremely the such as something to keep in mind when their number comes up because it did come off the boards whoever look out prep each double B or spot. A look at one likely sick that the worst. You'd expect that it rusher is at debate for most people between Terrell lender balking collagen most likely mark Davenport each yet that. So by target Packers pick one at that may be available. What do the two or maybe go. Is that a discussion point in Utah that quarters as well I get more corners available out there. But there's a guy you really like he tyra abort you probably should go get picked believers being true to deport. But there's a tiebreaker. About what look at that the position. Best corner. Coming into the draft this year in your opinion. Then they'll work state. I think you get everything you're looking for a handicap the tradition now if you don't they'll pretend to turn around I'll stick order who want your starter at the other guy landed. I go what they play well. It can fly he's willing to tackle. You make plays on the fall off I needed that one coming out. He got that ball well lit the recent weeks now during the processes I hear about it certainly. They're about half the season last year by low kuwaitis aggressive on the football on shorter passes. I watched it just look at data what might actually watch somewhat out I can't because he's playing. Is coverage. Realize where he was what is involved and play well attitude coverage behind it. They play on the ball all that I know there's no way to quarterback got beat. We've got height of the Keating had good instinct you know my keys EC yeah it was a natural ball off but again. A one year. Productive player has yet transferred by Carolina. Had to hear you yet ultimate kick returner build so they're there are few more quarter I would be excited about that would be pressure. The the other has Morgan Burnett no longer with the team Josh Jones last year played better or near the line that he did did back in coverage looked lost at times hot Clinton Dix coming off of a bad year. Tell me about Fitzpatrick the the defensive back coming out of Alabama because he complain more safety than he does corner so lockdown guy can play slide. But I would he be guided if he can come in and and maybe give them depth and that's safety position as well that that would be protect. Nugget yet asked tactic I think it at fourteen he won't be around. So but I think you'd be really good pick because I think he can do everything your book or you describe pretty you are the very well. If he didn't have to play a lot of high safety you know that that free safety that we get used to wait Beckett detect it platelets that Alabama. They get in Rome as you mentioned plate in the slot it. Not intercept in college. Or who turned in the touchdown. As ball hawking ability probably ask what separates him from Derwin genes court stated that bicker bicker. First it. And probably more day eighty. A closer to the ball type of player. Had three interceptions blaster those resolute in his career. Fitzpatrick hit the ball Turkey in the something else and that's what it yes I think people like it better change. Although out on the game player now. I wanted to I wanted to touch base because a wanna go back you should markets Davenport in a lot of people are talking about him lot of mock drafts have him going Green Bay Packers. With that fourteenth overall pick. There was some question because he played at Texas San Antonio and are you know I said look whatever's on film that's fine as long as he's got the chops to get it done who cares as long as he's good right. What we all know edge rushers coming into the league it's very difficult in your first you'd be that big an impact player. Tell me about Marcus Davenport and why so many people like him in patent system. I think people kind of and that kind of thing people eat when they see his body types they see is his quickness saw the ball they see is the ability to. Sliding body in in in and get between blockers to get into and get the quarterback issue a lot of the outside. And everytime I hear so what about late wrought this left on our lap. In the lap pillar for called him brawl what was the opt. That you would be opera I mean that you would like now what replica want to put this on it do what. You and it turned out all put into place so awful why he just has not played it that high level we're expecting. Kicked the can't currently in conference USA now like they play either division three football there. I think any stretch of the imagination so he easy to keep your urgent. I'll butcher what you were a lot people would see under pressure like between the prep each up shut up you know stronger body rocked uptight guy. You put Davenport excellent. It looked like he did it to hit it to weight room and and what that you preclinical and subsidies that. Our real quick before I let you go it just knowing Mike Patton in the situation obviously Dom Capers out pens and little little bit more adaptable type of coach I guess when you look at his numbers and where he's working at granite. Some his defense is were under any Rex Ryan and Rex Ryan we all know is more than defensive guru and anything but. That being said how impact forty think Patton is walking through the door. I think because coach keepers has been around for so law I mean you're hurt on the separate short definitely out the door to yeah. And it felt like sour grapes in the that it could be leaving. But there is development if true could that there. Ito turning over your roster part of why you turn it over Asia gotta have guys keep their attention anecdote that you which are gonna say at which who are. All hot patterns right bill you know belt. I have been my kids to tele outer concert on this story out here you know so you know. Had a new voice. And guess what. Even if you're a long time that would in new person box at the door gets which you have to give an impressive yeah you know it's you're not comfortable anymore. Because you're due out coach keeper reacted to it would eat it. Their comfort don't want to get alerted them and that they got one of the big thing in what the big it was a good thing I liked it and by the way he can't coach. Mob before you dog I've talked hero quick our friends we know Bob and a whole gang over there and expect as this has been something we've been talking about promoting for a long long time Brian Billick comes on the show and talks about them we've seen a Bob do the demonstration we're at a super boy you don't you being a guy has been around football played football scene these things how how big of Boca failure these exec adds. I'm off the about the charts and other bills absolutely had to put my son and he played his senior year high school he had shoulder issue it. Didn't have an issue all season marred tactful firmly believe a big part of that you expect that should mean it is patented design exclusive partnership with. Eckart the military grateful you mentioned that you know the impact Alec how it handles that dispersant that. You know that's what you get that shot that. Take it all boarded that it disperses it and I keep movement light weight doesn't absorb water plot think about people will eat about testimonials you bought Delaware's Dexter. Clearly Barack was ecstatic Beckham junior where texting Eli extract them into the draft this year Joshua -- Alex it where. I don't high school kid or after their colleges. For expect that when they are signing they look and I want with a partly market where the cat. Consider wearing a high school and what that that's what's happening out there that's what The Who admitted Bob Broderick hit Bali mentioned that. And of course a long time medical equipment got no one knows more about had but it thing about that bill. These two saw the future for the rest of missed it because they stopped eighteen meatball sub key changing and it realize that they hit it. Judy what you're held it right put Iraq on the football. League gain which news or use our shoulders a lot more. So they get out edit it and do it created a special look at on the market well normally see and expect that dot com enter our draft. 10% all the it has coaches players parents. And trust me as a parent. I'm telling you get these children. The extent to go to X tech XT ECH pads dot com for 10% output in the promo code draft in listening to a program today. And you get 10% off but I I tell you what you'll need to go any further the watched Bob do that demonstration where he smashes his hand with a helmet calls an element of Chris it makes me cringe every time something and it's going to be the time the path fails and he's gonna was shredded hand. Every time he takes a lot of outs away. Has not built yeah I don't think it's going to I have no doubt it will not fail that that the market it. That's what are what does it need that is going to shoulders you know. I don't know I know that I know that Charles it's always a pleasure my friend double talk you real soon okay. 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And and I you know what I understand that to a certain extent Josh hater has been. Didn't mean solid he's been able to come in and and you know didn't get outs for me for lack of better term Jacob Barnes. All on one of 180 ERA he's he's got one save opportunity. A one save on the season he's had a blown say. You know we've seen now over Drake with a 113 ERA but Josh hater. He he's got six appearances. He's got a 186 ERA. You know his last five outings I mean he's he's been pretty stellar he's gone two innings one and a third one of the third two innings in two innings. And yeah he's. He hasn't allowed an inherited runner to score opponents are batting zero O 65 against U2 for 31 by the way. You know should he be the guy. You know where it opponents are batting 259 against Jeremy Jeffords. You know he's inherited four runners and allow one to score. You know when you when you start to kind of run through the list and Jennings had opportunities. But Josh haters you got a lot of people are saying you know given opportunity. There's 122 strikeouts in just over nine and two thirds innings this season. And that by the way leads major in the major leagues in relievers. He's been really really good. 855830864. He still though when you look at those that the bullpen. The starters are three and five overall and where would force every two ERA relievers. Are five and two with a 259 ER in fifteen games. There's only in fifteen game Julia for quality starts. For. In save opportunities though this is this is a daunting number. There have been four save opportunities. They've got our should take there's four saves in eleven opportunities for the Milwaukee girl. That's that's an idea. That's not good. Per relievers have given up 21 runs eighteen of them earned. 45 walkouts 74 strikeouts. While the starters have given up 45 runs forty earned 28 walks in 61 strikeouts. While the brewers starters have also given up twelve long balls. While relievers have only given up four. And opponents are batting 217 against the bullpen vs 266 against Peru are starting pitcher. There are some numbers were. 85583086. Foray in the loans by kept our town told free talk more. Just some startling numbers. You wanna talk to brewers baseball gives a shout otherwise we can also hear from Paul Crist who's coming out of their practices. Meehan has some some things to say regarding his team upcoming this portion of the program also brought you by our friends at Marshall clinic health system Marshall clinic. Don't forget that they can help you health care my way and it's a 44 caraway ate four pork fairway that's its newest column they can signature to the doctors get the pharmacy they can help you out. There's charge if there if they can't they don't charge at all. It's fantastic it's 844 care when it's 844 care wait just a minute another way to help you out to Marshall clinic. 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Bucks dial again cafe Benelux in the third ward six to seven coming up this Thursday night and we certainly hope to see you. As they face in the crowd op Crist says not out in the spring game and we know it's it's great for the fans but it did the pack and tiger work out. I mean from our what this team needed today it was we got all. Always Indian diamond from the same with a done done haven't played outside of the venue change rust. I the big reason to change considered when then. That's exactly right. And the team this past week how they do as good week. All alone you know unfortunately we're able told the game outside the fans what number we got some good work done today and reassess those good week and you know every play this time the years is good we'll win positive. Or not there's there's good learning she was damage to keep growing and you learn and finished next week's Wolf Blitzer and. So you know I mean that you don't do you just keep working and you're trying to lay the ground work for what's coming up well when you get into actual training camp and whether the guys. You know it did or did leave the NFL because the potential for team's success and such you've got some real talented players there right now. That was certainly I think that you know the team aspect had something do with their decision and everything else it's it's person's decision. And they can all benefit from. You familiar and we. No you're playing as a team show that they believe in each other and I think we'll come and they they all made individual choices. Lose his we're fortunate. Appreciate the fact they're all back in. We're better team with the their opportunity to make the most. Some guys they can go and you know you've got some guys are coming back for successful season and with that in mind you know is he said another year in the weight room and earlier bigger faster stronger know the year really kind of hone your skills becoming more prepared and it certainly can't hurt and day certainly benefits said the Wisconsin Badgers are going to be highly looked upon coming out of the west again this year. Even those scheduled it's a little bit tougher I don't think there's anybody right now lets any kind of a national pundit when it comes to college football. There's not gonna pick the badgers not only when the west would be competitive when it comes in the Big Ten title the biggest argument is. They have not been able to beat Urban Meyer and will Urban Meyer and company again with the recruiting class and they have. Would they be the team to beat over in the Easter is Penn State going to continue their roll forward. Is this year mid Michigan finally breaks through. How's Michigan State and rebound they had a dismal season last year just was off season for them how are they gonna rebound and all this mean that east is still going to be extremely strong so. The biggest argument is is not only can they win the west might play some of the better teams in the east but then can they finally get over the hump. And knock off Urban Meyer and the Ohio State Buckeyes and you know a one guy it's got a lot of learning to do is Paul Crist says is their starters Jonathan Taylor. Always it's always beneficial and his bars. He does a lot of things that. Did he thinks he can get better we thinking of better should they did a lot of good but the more you're around it. Study in this. Owners there's our guy on this team can do better JT is one of them so. Spraying in the net us homer in the summary knows what's going down what the issue lesson visions and so. His love for him to. Want to a lot to learn a lot to understand and ledger is seeks get even better and also Paul Crist says it means time. To have you know see this back and feel violent. Next week. Yet more work today is different. It's I mean time it's good for him that's good for. Rhythm and timing in Dallas morning Brooke you're looking for him to take a step forward again this year is so Paul Chris alluded it's good to get. Both of those two back in now way they can you know kind of get a familiarity again with one another also says it's Aaron creek shank he's earned some reps in the in the. As well done or thought process in the spring ball is give yourself a chance to. You reps for fall and I think that I think there's. Some things that have been good and have an. Corruption. Parent current shank part of the new recruiting class here for the badgers is kid. Lightning fast sees a wide receiver. And the debate with him is dear red shirt him with so much depth at wide receiver right now or. Does Chris decide to put him on kick return. Is that can be really ensures easy day. I gotta say bill for the first time in a long time this. Wisconsin Badgers team offensively. With the receivers that they have it's scary good. And they went looking for him and they found him in Brooklyn New York. You know wasn't like he was right here you know sit across the border in northern Illinois or something new they went searching a little bit and he used some of that that East Coast. Study when he was over there working in Pittsburgh he went and found him Erasmus hall who recruited morass was home Brooklyn New York so. Crook check what you said a guy that he's he's he's big dude too. Ranks ranks highly as a three star recruit but he's got some serious speech yeah but he's not he's not that big I mean he's he'll always like iron fifty pounds he's got to wait on him yet. For sure but he's he's if you ever seen he's he can be a physical stress. You put a little bit of muscle on him he's easy amiga and so I'm I'm I'm anxious to see it but. Again only 59. And he's not big in that sense is far piece 5955. He still ski still stronger but he's not a big 6263. Qaeda. So we'll see what he ends up doing for the badgers but boy oh boy when you talk about lightening speed he's got his highlight real. Plain and harass miss. I mean he even just basically blew past everybody and really good hands and catches the ball out in front of him. As opposed to catching the ball in his chest catch in the water from always hands in front. Which is one of the things that I noticed he had really good spin moves we've moves after the catch with three yards after the catch so. We'll see. When we come back or to cover politics are greening gold analyst gonna be joining us coming up next state to more than a microchip next. Everywhere in Wisconsin. The bill Michael sports talk network.